2013 Valencia Post-Race Test Day 2 Notes: Hayden's Honda, Edwards On The FTR, And The Brothers Espargaro

The track was a lot busier on Tuesday at Valencia, after the halfhearted beginning to MotoGP testing on Monday afternoon. A group of well-rested riders took to the track to get prepared for the 2014 onslaught, and take the first steps on the road to a new season. Some familiar faces, some new faces, but also a couple of new bikes, with the Yamaha FTR machines run by Forward Racing making their debut on the track, and Nicky Hayden getting his first taste of the Honda RCV1000R.

The times set by the brand new Open class bikes hardly set the world on fire, but that was to be expected given the fact that this was the first time either of them had seen serious use in the hands of Grand Prix riders. 'Don't forget that Casey [Stoner] did just five laps in Motegi with that bike,' Honda principal Livio Suppo told me. 'It's really just a first shakedown with the riders.' That point was illustrated by Scott Redding, who has a problem with the wiring loom of the Gresini RCV1000R, and had to wait while they fixed that problem. It was probably for the best, as Redding is still struggling with injuries to his arm and back. The problems is worse in left handers, which Valencia has in abundance. By the end of the long left of Turn 13, the pain had become almost unbearable, Redding said.

Though Nicky Hayden was prohibited from speaking to the media due to still being under contract to Ducati (and generating much speculation about exactly what he will say when his contract ends on December 31st), Suppo said Hayden had been impressed. 'Nicky seems very very happy with the handling of the machine,' the Honda boss said. 'They've still got some things to improve with the software, but I believe we can do this with Magneti Marelli.'

Electronics is an issue with the Yamaha FTR as well. You can hear it as the Yamaha goes up and over the hill through the everlasting left hander of Turn 13. The bike spits and gurgles like a chain smoking coal miner, reminiscent of the CRT bikes when they first hit the track. 'The electronics package we're on now, I'm not happy with,' Colin Edwards commented. 'Yamaha developed something with their testing and said "OK, the bike runs good, let's throw this in," but I don't like the theory, the theory that they're using right now. We spent all year developing something that works real good, and we need to put that in this unit. Right now I have zero trust in it.' The rest of the bike he loved, however, and was especially happy to be back on a bike with some horsepower. 'It's a freight train, it just keeps pulling and pulling. It's a pleasure to shift gears and not keep bashing your helmet against the screen because it's missing a gear. '

Aleix Espargaro was also delighted with the power of the Yamaha motor. 'The engine is much better, it has almost 2,000 RPM more than the Aprilia,' Aleix said. 'The top speed, after two years, it's great to be in the top six, it's really strange and I'm really happy.' The weak point of the chassis was the braking, the same complaint made by the riders on factory and satellite Yamahas. 'With the Aprilia, I can enter the corner in the last moment while braking really really hard.' That was not the way to go fast on the Yamaha, Aleix said.

Brother Pol had an impressive second day on the Tech 3 machine. He ended the day 1.3 seconds behind Marc Marquez, and just over a second slower than Jorge Lorenzo. It had been a busy day, getting used to all aspects of the Yamaha M1, Pol said. They had tried both hard and soft front and rear tires, used the carbon brakes, and trying different set up changes to learn what effect they had. He was clearly still trying too hard: watching from the brake point for Turn 14, the end of the long left hander before the tight final corner, the difference between Jorge Lorenzo and Pol was striking. Lorenzo's movements were fluid, lazy, the bike on rails as he lined up the corner. Espargaro junior jerked upright, the bike twitching below him, looking right on the edge of control. He was clearly a lot slower than Lorenzo. 'I'm trying to ride the bike as fast as possible, but I'm not smooth,' Pol commented afterwards. It was clearly an area for improvement.

What was surprising to Espargaro was that riding the bike was less tiring than he had expected. At the end of a Moto2 race, he was destroyed, but at the end of testing, he was holding up pretty well, Pol said. This was perhaps a sign of things to come, he opined. The start to his MotoGP career had been pretty smooth, but the problems would start from here on in, as he tried to go faster and faster.

Testing concludes on Wednesday, though imminent rain looks like calling a premature halt to the action. The factory Yamaha team have already called it a day, finishing up on Tuesday before heading home. Once testing concludes, we will have a full view of the test, including who has been working on what.

The track was a lot busier on Tuesday at Valencia, after the halfhearted beginning to MotoGP testing on Monday afternoon. A group of well-rested riders took to the track to get prepared for the 2014 onslaught, and take the first steps on the road to a new season. Some familiar faces, some new faces, but also a couple of new bikes, with the Yamaha FTR machines run by Forward Racing making their debut on the track, and Nicky Hayden getting his first taste of the Honda RCV1000R.The times set by the brand new Open class bikes hardly set the world on fire, but that was to be expected given the fact that this was the first time either of them had seen serious use in the hands of Grand Prix riders. 'Don't forget that Casey [Stoner] did just five laps in Motegi with that bike,' Honda principal Livio Suppo told me. 'It's really just a first shakedown with the riders.' That point was illustrated by Scott Redding, who has a problem with the wiring loom of the Gresini RCV1000R, and had to wait while they fixed that problem. It was probably for the best, as Redding is still struggling with injuries to his arm and back. The problems is worse in left handers, which Valencia has in abundance. By the end of the long left of Turn 13, the pain had become almost unbearable, Redding said.

Comments

What is Ducati afraid of?

I find it incredible that Ducati has forbidden Nicky Hayden from speaking till the contract time runs out. That for me means that he will say something that they are afraid of. But then I hope they realise that he cannot be shut up for good and when the contract period runs out, he will say what he wants to say.

Total votes: 39

Ducati contract

I think this kind of gag order is pretty much par for the course isn't it? I seem to recall similar orders to other riders when changing teams - though I could be wrong.

Total votes: 54

Ducati contract

I agree the gag order is common practice, actually Ducati are being quite generous by letting Nicky ride the Honda at Valencia. That has not always been the case with other brands & riders if I remember correctly.

Total votes: 47

Courtesy indeed....

If I remember correctly, Honda was not so gracious when VR46 packed up and ventured off to the Yamaha garage...

Total votes: 44

letting them ride is the 'right' thing

In the case of Nicky Hayden, for example, I think letting him ride the Honda right away is the 'right' thing for Ducati to do considering they canned him. On the other hand maybe they're paying him until the end of the year (I have no idea) so I could see it both ways. It is nice to see that everyone appears to be on a level playing field in terms of being able to test their new stuff right away though.

Total votes: 32

Testing Courtesy

I believe that all of the riders who have switched teams are testing their new bikes with the blessing of their old teams- they could be prohibited from riding at all until their contracts expire.

Total votes: 44

The only time I can think

The only time I can think that a rider wasn't permitted to ride new machinery was Rossi's split with Honda. Look how that ended.

Total votes: 33

Contracts

Why don't rider contracts run season to season instead of calendar years? Instead of all this gag order nonsense just finish everyone's contracts at the end of the Valencia race.

Total votes: 41

Races and events could be

Races and events could be subject to change whereas end of the calendar year is not. Its keeping things simple by not having a date that ignorant lawyers will be hard pressed to figure out the significance of.

Total votes: 34

So specify end date as "till end of the day of the last race"

Really, it's not difficult. :)

Total votes: 39

If that is what is wanted it would not be difficult but...

It all depends if the end of season testing is a close out of the 2013 season or a start to the 2014.
Contracts to the end of the calendar year allow teams to have control of the immediate post season of departing riders. Any that have upset their previous team (who are their employers) may have to delay their testing or eat humble pie.
End of the calendar year contracts also delay departing rider's comments on their previous employer/ride until the off season which might make them more moderate.

Total votes: 42

So-called "gag order" is not what you think it is

It is not in place to prevent riders switching brand immediately talking about their impressions of their new bike (after all they'll do it a couple month later and nobody cares), it is merely a side effect.

The reason for the contracts to expire at the end of the year (instead of the end of the season) is purely commercial.
Say your rider is world champ: you retain the rights to exploit his image, and he remains a loyal salesman of your brand for 2 extra months after the last race, giving you enough time to promote your brand with campaigns exhibiting your shiny trophy.

MotoGP is a business, when you invest millions in a rider, the least you can expect is to capitalize on their results come the end of the championship. In case he wants to go elsewhere that still leaves you with a few weeks to commercially exploit the results you gathered together.

Total votes: 49

That makes complete sense.

That makes complete sense.

Total votes: 35

Frenchie...

With logic like that you'll never get a job on Dorna's rule-making committee!

Total votes: 41

Going Back To HONDA...

For all you MGP historians... Has HONDA/HRC ever allowed a rider to return to their organization after years being with another Brand? I don't recall Honda doing anything like this since I've been watching MotoGP. Hayden is the only (celebrity) rider I've seen return to Honda. Nicky Hayden has achieved something even the great Rossi was never able to do! The years of Hayden's silence regarding the way Honda did him dirty years ago... has paid off in the best way anybody could imagine. Dovi replaced Hayden at Honda and Dovi never had much success there. Nick is still a class act and I can't wait to hear his report on the new Honda. Go NH69...

Total votes: 43

I think Miguel Duhamel

I think Miguel Duhamel returned to Honda...

Total votes: 41

CS27?

Or do you just mean the factory team and not satellites?

Total votes: 45

David

BTW thank you David for all the great content. Happy to be a subscriber!

Total votes: 34

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