Guest Blog: Mat Oxley: Márquez and Pedrosa clash at Aragon

MotoMatters.com is delighted to feature the work of iconic MotoGP writer Mat Oxley. Oxley is a former racer, TT winner and highly respected author of biographies of world champions Mick Doohan and Valentino Rossi, and currently writes for Motor Sport Magazine, where he is MotoGP correspondent. We are featuring sections from Oxley's blogs, which are posted in full on the Motor Sport Magazine website.


Márquez and Pedrosa clash at Aragon

“I didn’t see the touch, but I think Marc should be penalised for two or three seasons!” That was Valentino Rossi’s take on the latest Márquez controversy on Sunday.

Personally, I think the nine-time champ is being a bit harsh on the kid. I think Márquez should be handed another two-point penalty. This, in addition to the two points he got for not respecting yellow flags during Silverstone warm-up, will take him to four points. And that would mean he must start the next race from the back of the grid.

The next race is Sepang. Think about it: a longer than usual drag to the first turn, then plenty of fast, wide corners and long straights. I think Márquez would be tenth by Turn One, sixth by the end of the first lap, third by the end of the second lap. And then? Somehow I think the reigning Moto2 champ – who won last year’s Valencia Moto2 race from the back row of the grid (after committing another misdemeanour during practice) – would relish the challenge.

Rossi, of course, was only joking when he suggested a hefty punishment for the 20-year-old who may well inherit the Italian’s (often disputed) mantle as the greatest bike racer of all time. What he really said was, “I think Marc should be penalised for two or three seasons – it will make racing a lot more easy!”

Race Direction’s decision to delay its hearing into the Márquez/Dani Pedrosa incident until the eve of the Malaysian Grand Prix will allow all kinds of conspiracy theories to ferment over the next few days. Some people want the kid roundly punished. Others don’t want him punished at all. And both sides will be doing everything they can to get their opinions heard in the corridors of power.

Read the rest of Mat Oxley's blog on the Motor Sport Magazine website.

Comments

Funny How

Imagine if a song and dance like this was made in the day's of Doohan, Rainey and Shcwantz! People would have called them soft and told them to put up and shut up. But now if they break a nail it's to crazy and they should be punished. Sad to see racing go this way

Total votes: 101

I am not so sure

that could be the case....this incident and most of what the complaints about Marquez have little to do with hard racing and banging,which MM showed himself responsibly capable of when dealing with JL and and JL's last lap pass for victory...rather it is the silly mistakes like the one Sunday,where he simply does something dangerous for no racing reason....of course,not seeing the Yellow and the waving cornermen in England was silly and extremely dangerous,and continually overrunning corners and narrowly missing/running into other riders in his overshot line makes no sense and he needs to stop doing it....it has nothing to do with hard racing and all to do with the immaturity that is his as a young man-child....immensely talented and exciting,but lacking the maturity to understand the situations he continues to place himself(apparently)....indeed,I think he may have found himself punted off long ago were he to continue such tomfoolery in the midst of the riders you mentioned....

Total votes: 83

One thing everyone can agree

One thing everyone can agree on... you can never, ever, beat the good ol' days.

Total votes: 67

I am not so sure

that could be the case....this incident and most of what the complaints about Marquez have little to do with hard racing and banging,which MM showed himself responsibly capable of when dealing with JL and and JL's last lap pass for victory...rather it is the silly mistakes like the one Sunday,where he simply does something dangerous for no racing reason....of course,not seeing the Yellow and the waving cornermen in England was silly and extremely dangerous,and continually overrunning corners and narrowly missing/running into other riders in his overshot line makes no sense and he needs to stop doing it....it has nothing to do with hard racing and all to do with the immaturity that is his as a young man-child....immensely talented and exciting,but lacking the maturity to understand the situations he continues to place himself(apparently)....indeed,I think he may have found himself punted off long ago were he to continue such tomfoolery in the midst of the riders you mentioned....

Total votes: 57

Embarrassingly hypocritical

Embarrassingly hypocritical for Oxley to call for points on Marquez' license for the Aragon contact when Oxley wrote the following words a few short months ago:

"MotoGP’s Race Direction need a big thank you for their unanimous decision not to sanction Marc Márquez for his last-corner move on Jorge Lorenzo at Jerez ..."

OTOH, at least I'm not the only one who suspects Dorna will try to manipulate the points chase to attract more interest ...

btw; Roger Lee Hayden crashed in a corner this weekend where there were waving yellows, launched his bike over the inflatable barriers and nearly took out an injured, hobbling Leon Haslam and several corner workers. And yet not a peep ...

Total votes: 65

Serious?

I don't think he was serious. Or, rather, I think he might be serious, but not for the reason he thinks MM should be penalized. I think it's more for the reason that a race with MM starting from the back of the grid could prove a more entertaining race and, perhaps, result in a more thrilling end to the championship.

Do you think Rossi was serious in his comment?

Total votes: 50

So tired of hearing about

So tired of hearing about this already and it's been only 3 days.

Go back and watch the last lap of the Assen race. Crutchlow runs into the back of Marquez in extremely similar fashion and it got 0 attention after the Assen weekend was complete. In fact they both joked about it in Parc Ferme.

Let it go.

Total votes: 75

And Cal

is going to maim himself if he can't figure out how to stay off the ground....and MM has hit the ground an exorbitant number of times himself....he is at this point,a valuable commodity and I find it hard to believe that Honda is not concerned and very aware that relying on the continued serendipity of good fortune is not a solid or sustainable strategy ,same goes for the Safety bunch...blood and bones may be what it takes for some,but those with their economic skin in the game are hopefully a little brighter than those lining the fences and pounding the keyboards.....

Total votes: 60

Puig. And Safety

There's still something fishy with Puig's reaction and with the speed with which Dorna put out video of Honda Technicians examining the broken cable. And with the phrasing around the handling of the issue and the technical information required.

Which makes me think that the most important decision here is not about Marc's riding but about scrutineering, safety, HRC, Spec ECUs, Spec ECU Software and probably several other aspects. And even conceivably things like mandatory lever guards on the clutch side. Never mind that Honda should have designed this better, how did it get past scrutineering?

So is there any realistic sanction on a technical team making safety mistakes that doesn't also penalise the rider?

Anyway, yes, please, can we have a Sepang race where Marquez starts at the back of the grid.

Total votes: 56

To penalize or not... this

To penalize or not... this can be argued endlessly... But putting MM on the back of the grid at Sepang will generate excitement for sure. I think many want to witness again the phenomenal performance of MM starting from back in Moto2. This will also increase the probability of closer championship run to the end. I vote 2 pt penalty for this reason.

Total votes: 55

Slow riders should go at the back.

Sorry DP26, I'm your fan, but MM93 is faster, move.

:)

Total votes: 65

Yeah, I was jokin

Morbidelli17, I was joking about MM's punishment, as DJDiff noticed. I don't think he should be punished. But at the same time I think it'd be pretty cool watching him start from the back of the grid at Sepang.

Total votes: 62

My bad. I suspect,

My bad. I suspect, unfortunately, that a punishment is coming, because Dorna could use the spectacle. I also suspect that from the eighth row at Sepang, Marc would be sixth by the first turn.

Total votes: 51

If Marquez gets penalty

If Marquez gets penalty points then CC will need to get them as well for Assen. he actually caused movement of MM's RCV during that last lap maneuver.

Total votes: 70

Last lap

If the incident had happened on the last lap. I think it would be fair to call it a racing incident. Hard racing to the finish to try and win. It just wasn't smart riding by Marquez. That is what the issue is here.

Total votes: 64

Maybe the real issue here...

...is that teamates should not be allowed to make midrace setup changes to each others bikes?

It seems unfair.

Total votes: 62

yeah!!

Yeah, let that little squirt start from the back, it would be a lot of fun to watch....thats right..site supporter

Total votes: 58

Especially

without prior consultation!

Total votes: 55

I wonder if the spec ECU

I wonder if the spec ECU allows for two rear wheel sensors and if it does how it reconciles/arbitrates a difference in readings.

Total votes: 46

The Whole Thing Is Just STUPID!

There are several riders with as many crashes as Marquez this season and Jorge shouldn't be criticizing any other rider for doing the exact same thing he did when he entered MotoGP. Puig is just a Hater, always been, and that's why nobody wants to be around him except Dani. Why is it that you never see pics or video of Nakamoto/Suppo having laughs/fun with Dani and Puig! Their latest video of them dancing is hilarious! When MM won... he was doing the same dance afterwards before he lunged at the team. You see Nakamoto with Stoner and now Marquez a lot. Time for the media to stop the drama already. Marc didn't do it on purpose, if anything HRC should be penalized... not Marquez. Dorna won't do anything to keep Marquez from claiming the title this year, that's why Stoner isn't allowed to race at PI as a wildcard!

Total votes: 60

HRC is Responsible

There is absolutely nothing that MM did that has not been done to him this season, and this type of contact is commonplace in Moto 2. There has always been occasional contact in road racing ....think of Rossi and Giberneau...all part of racing. The fault lies with the guys that built and designed this bike. It appears that they mounted a critical and relatively flimsy component in a location where it could be taken out of service by incidental contact. Then they compounded their mistake by giving this flimsy component the ability to completely deactivate the traction control. As someone else noted, if MM is penalized for this contact, they might as well cancel the Moto 2 season. Everyone will be starting at the back of the grid, and then riding around like it is a parade lap for old guys....

Total votes: 50

TC

Seems that "flimsy" part has held up pretty damn well in the 12 crashes Marc has had this year. Let's not even mention Bautista,Bradel, and Dani. As far as the design goes. Yes, it can be improved upon and most certainly will. But it isn't by any means HRC's fault.

As I said earlier, if this was the last lap. It would be different. But this type of aggression so early in the race, when he had more pace than Lorenzo and so did Dani was just dangourous riding. When you ride on the track, racing especially. You have to have trust in the guys you are riding with. At this level, things are so close to the edge already, that trust is even more important. After all, it's your life your putting on the line out there.

Total votes: 55

Maybe Dani should just be

Maybe Dani should just be faster so that Marc isn't up his tailpipe all the time.

Total votes: 54

Unfair

That's an unfair characterization. Marc isn't 'up his tailpipe all the time'.

He's well out in front of his tailpipe most of the time.

It must suck in a rather huge way to continue to fail to win the championship when you have his skills and a Honda. And with this about to be the third time that a different number 2 rider on his team has won? Hell, Hayden even won it while developing parts for him.

'Ride faster'. I like it. He won't listen though. He didn't listen to Kevin Schwantz either.

Total votes: 42

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