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The GP/Red Bull route has it's limits. Not everyone can go that route. Either perceived talent, finances or politics will keep many out. Any chance is good for younger talent to get out there. Although I do not see the need for a 14yo to globe trot. IMO, 16 is early enough for any world level competition.
Also, the idea that to aspire to "only" be WSB champ, is an idea I frown on. Only a few people in the world can say they have done it. Any world title is pretty awesome. GP has been in a flux since it left the 500cc formula. They can't figure out what they want to do, so the best path (Superbike, WSS, 250s, Moto2) is still unclear.
ttom is right. It's true the speeds are slow but it teaches those youngsters corner speed. Besides watching young CJ Weaver in the AFM series sliding both front and rear wheels going through T1 at Thunderhill is very entertaining.
Will Elias get the special parts Honda de Puniet used or something else?
I assume the Ilmor-spec fork is because they bought their forks they didn't have use anymore and Randy got along with that front very well? Now that the factory guys use Öhlins, maybe LCR will upgrade too.
I hope Honda want to put a bit of extra effort for the Moto2 champion and not just throw whatever leftovers they have. Hopefully there will not be 4-5 bikes before the LCR in their ranking.
I don't see the debate about Elias getting a GP ride. He never should have left. He finished in the top half in his last year. Stick around for more Moto2 titles?! What for?! All the GP riders think moto2 is silly. Elias will be getting top tens and I dare say be the best satellite rider. Next year I think Super Sic will be his only satellite competition. He'll be good next year, why don't you think he's built for it? That would make me think half the class isn't built for it.
I'm just glad he's not with Pramac but really glad hes not with Suzuki!
Feel terrible for RDP, he looked SO strong the first half of the season. He was easily the best satellite rider the first half and who knows what might have been. He really deserves that ride. Its a shame LCR cant run a two man team, they actually have a competitive bike.
Did anyone else get the feeling that Lorenzo had the 2nd half pace already from the start?
I have no fact to substatiate it on but I have the feeling that instead of taking off from the start he slowed down to get temperature in hte tyres and to measure his opponents' strength. When he saw that Rossi's pace was below his he took a calculated run to pass and pull away.
Estoril for JLo has proven to be like Stoner's Philip Island or Rossi's Sepang. Did anyone not expect them to win there? If Dani's collarbone is better and the weather is dry I wouldnt be surprised if he wins at Valencia.
I hope RDP gets a ride with Pramac. He's a fearless rider, and he's fun to watch. Maybe he can get on with the Ducati beast, especially if Valentino can aid the bike's development.
show once again that they can set up a bike extremely quickly, especially at tracks Lorenzo likes.
Stupid rain.
If you think the Ninja 250s can't make a good cheap track bike I'd suggest you watch an AFM 250cc Production race at Sears Point or Thunderhill some time.
I wish class specialists had a more well respected place and folks really good at a formula could keep going for as long as they wanted. But that's not the reality of professional racing anymore. In the post Biaggi 250 era the upward promoting pressure and search for youth in the 'bigger' leagues has increased in intensity. Rising champions like Rossi, Melandri, Pogialli, Pedrosa, Simoncelli, Lorenzo and others have forged this path as the only way to go and if you don't follow it to MotoGP by the time you are 25 like them, everyone thinks you've missed your chance and should just lay down in your grave. Since this seems to be a hierarchy that's commercially successful the rules have been changed to keep the old codgers out of the 125cc class and that pretty much sealed the fate of all that don't fit that youth-promotion model.
And here the sport sits with a dwindling grid and few excellent options for all but the top 8 riders in the world. Our focus on these top riders perpetuates this lack of attention for the rest of the premier grid and another 20-40 real world class talents at the bottom half, moto2 and production racing have to scramble to make the most of their short careers.
That's pretty funny.
And probably pretty accurate.
But what was that last line:
Rossi dreams of becoming a father?
The problem with this infighting between GP and SBK is for the young talent.
I think its safe to presume,that should you ask any aspiring youngster whether he would rather stand on top of the MotoGP podium or the SBK podium,he would opt for the former.
Clearly,should that be the aspiration,the path is Red Bull,Moto 3 etc.
A handfull,but I reckon,even fewer riders will be given the opportunity to switch from SBK to GP once they've reached the pinnacle in SBK.
The reverse is not true.I reckon ex GP talent will always find an open door in SBK.
Nevertheless,it does create a great new avenue and the cream will rise to the top.
..... he does not derserve the ride, and as the new Moto2 champ you would expect that rider to move up, what Im saying is thats it a bad idea for HIM.
His season in Moto2 has been far better then any seasons he spent in MotoGP. Yes he showed times of brilliance, but was never a regular at the sharp end.
I have always liked Tiger Toni, he really is a Legend in my mind, and its for this reason I would like to see him in Moto2 and get a few more titles under his belt.
In a way, this is a repeat of Troy Bayliss. A Supers champ, one of the best riders in the world by far, did good in MotoGP but not BRILLIANT, goes back to Supers and cleans up.
I dare say, CE2 could go back to supers and get better results then he is getting now in MotoGP.
I also have alot of time for Rdp. I think he does deserve to be in MotoGP, just not with Pramac.
The LCR set up reminds me of the old WCM Red Bull team by Peter Clifford who rain Gary McCoy for on the YZR stroker. The way that team & Dunlop made that Yamaha work for McCoys ( "different" !! ) style is just like the way LCR have made that HRC work for RdP.
Like I say, I have never bad mouthed them, nor have I said they dont deserve to ride in the Moto "X" Championship['s], I just think that when a rider finds a class that really suits them and they know they can win, why change, ALA J.M Aspar.
http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2010/Hayden+on+fifth+place+in+Portugal
Elias has won races in each and every one of the 4 world championship categories he has raced: 125cc, 250 cc, Moto2 and MotoGP. As far as I remember, the only other rider in the paddock who has accomplished this is Rossi.
I agree with Brookespeed. If the Moto2 champ doesnt deserve a MotoGP ride, then who does?
The SBK World Champ? I think that is a soon to be 40 year old italian by the name of Biaggi. Should he come back to MotoGP then? Cal Crutchlow is taking Spies place in the satellite Yamaha team. I don't think anyone thinks he hasn't earned it. Is his track record any better than Elias'?
David, I believe I read here, that the MSMA wanted the fuel limits. Is that the case, and if so, WHY? How/what would they benefit from limiting themselves to 21L of fuel?
Are the pics on the back the same as the pics for each month?
I don't know if fuel limits had an impact here but I'll say it again - there is no good reason for limiting fuel on a racing machine. It is ridiculous!
Espeically since it was the first time all weekend he was on the Dunlop slicks.
Racing ninja 250's would be great fun!
Sofuoglu was bashing his handlebar because it was not quite adjusted right. His team were fixing the bike after his highside in warm up right up until he was ready to go out on the sighting lap, and the bars were not quite right. His shoulder was starting to hurt under braking, as his body position was a bit skewed, so he kept trying to bang them to where he wanted them. This meant he hit the kill switch a couple of times, cutting the engine (which is why he slowed dramatically).
He used his tires up really quickly, though, because this was the first time he'd ever ridden a Moto2 bike with the spec Dunlops. He had tested the Moto2 bike at Albacete with a tire from the Spanish Formula Extreme championship, which is a different construction and compound (the Formula Extreme bikes are similar to Superstock 1000s). Add to this the fact that the Moto2 bikes have a spec ECU, a simple slipper clutch and no traction control, as opposed to the top World Supersport bikes which are positively bristling with electronics nowadays.
Given that this was the first time Sofuoglu had been to Estoril, and his first race on the Moto2 bike, that was a pretty impressive outing.
I know a lot of racers and I can tell you that very few think any other racer can beat them if they are/were on equal machinery. And the ones that don't think that way are older and past their prime.
It's just part of what makes racers unique. I'm glad Vale and all the other great competitors think that way. I would be dissapointed if they didn't.
should have won the race, if he didn't crash I think he would have done it.
Started like 25th or something, made his way up to 4th before he went down.
Fuel Maybe...
This is all imaginative theory
He was on a soft soft combo, and with the complaints that there wasn't a broad enough tire choice for riders my guess is Bridgestone widen the differece between Soft and hard.
Nic and Kenan both went out front held for a bit then fell back, both used the soft combination and that spelled a great start and a drop in lap times.
"someone with a motogp subscription please check lap times?"
Fuel is a possibility but in my opinion not likely, I wish they would allow up to ... fuel and make it a choice of engine life VS Power not how much to squeeze out of an engine, that also cuts the ceiling on revs, more power in the lower range.
Just a thought ;-) Thanks David your site has become my sole GP race news site. Enjoy the break
Yeah, the De Puniet part of the story reeks, if true.
He was running fifth in the championship before breaking his leg in a crash at the Sachsenring.
So is De Puniet going to be out of a ride next year? Depending on what's going on with Pramac.
I understand the dramatic slowing was due to him bashing the kill switch? But what on earth was he trying to 'adjust'?