This year's Honda had to cope with the extra 4kg added by the rule change in December, the discovery of chatter over the winter tests, and the fact that their riders don't like the new design of front tyre. It's only been an option up to now, but will be the only construction available from Silverstone onwards.
While it may be argued that chatter is a problem with the Honda - the RC213V has had chatter from the very beginning - as the other bikes don't suffer from it, the lack of tires available for testing does look amateurish and very poorly organized. Honda may be to blame for the chatter, but they have to be given a chance to fix it.
Honda, they spent a lot of time working on the chatter at the rear that has plagued the bike since the start of the season. They found a few solutions to the rear chatter, though Casey Stoner was still cautious, saying he'd rather wait till he got to Silverstone to make a more complete judgment. They did feel that they had an idea of what was causing the chatter, and so had a direction to pursue. "If we could make a few new parts for Silverstone, it would be fantastic," Stoner said. The Australian was coy about the parts that he had tested and that had made the difference, saying only "It's a very small part, something we didn't really expect.
Cam D wrote:Well put by Krop -While it may be argued that chatter is a problem with the Honda - the RC213V has had chatter from the very beginning - as the other bikes don't suffer from it, the lack of tires available for testing does look amateurish and very poorly organized. Honda may be to blame for the chatter, but they have to be given a chance to fix it.
dave_m wrote: As far as conspiracies go.......
Cam D wrote: The Australian was coy about the parts that he had tested and that had made the difference, saying only "It's a very small part, something we didn't really expect.
Squidpuppet wrote:dave_m wrote: As far as conspiracies go.......
Casey announced his (EARLY) retirement and pissed DORNA off by complaining about the series. He is being deliberately punished with unsuitable tires. Fact.
Seriously though, does anyone know which front tire Bradl used for the race? New or old style?
dave_m wrote:According to Bridgestone, 15 of the 21 riders used the new construction at Catalunya. And that's with the riders only getting 2 of those tires for the weekend, so it appears to be an immediate improvement for most teams.
Nachlauf wrote:For those of you who have a season pass there is some small information about the new spec front tire in the post qualifying PC in Barcelona.
Iirc Lorenzo stated, that it allows him to brake a fraction later. And Crutchlow said it made no difference to him. No mention about it warming up better or being safer by any means. Make of it what ever you want.
Cam D wrote:If the issue is primarily about safety, then why not let Honda use the tyre they say makes thir riders safe?
Gustav O wrote:So there is a conspiracy between Dorna and Bridgestone aimed at HRC and Stoner. Put down the pipes and take the tin foil hats off - please.
TwoStroke Institute wrote:Don't think there is a conspiracy.......................Dorna are not that smart. Which got me wondering have they ever made any hasty rule changes or applied pressure to suppliers before...........or recently
Nucci wrote:Repsol Honda had the same access to this new tyre as every other team, so no conspiracy there.
The Aragon test was a late addition due to Estoril being rained out, Bridgestone couldnt supply the new spec tire in time for this test, so no conspiracy there either.
Bridgestone developed a new front tyre for 2012 which had changes just to the rubber compounds, the 33 has developments to the construction as well so its less rigid. I don't think they can supply both tyres as a)it messes with the production schedule and b) over a race distance it is not known what the performance differential is i.e. Repsol Honda could be dis/advantaged by being the sole runner on this tyre.
This change was made due to safety, not performance reasons it seems. Bottom line was the 'original' 2012 spec tyre was safer than last year, but after talking to the riders the Safety Commission said riders preferred the 33 as it gave a lot more feedback from the front. So on the basis of this consensus, it was decided to replace the current spec with the 33.
L34 wrote:Is BS now going to change the construction of the rear tyre to help Honda's rear chatter?
If not, why not?