Squidpuppet wrote: coyote wrote:
Squidpuppet wrote:LOL again. Massage it all you want. Eliminate all Rossis crashes to "fit" your claims and predictions.
So what you're saying is that we can use these crashes to predict future crashes? Do you not see how ridiculous that is or are you being deliberately obtuse?
Were you saying Nicky was going to rout Stoner after Le Mans 2010?
Why do you keep bringing Stoner into the debate?
I am not saying that the past crashes are an indication of future crashes. I am saying that they are proof that Rossi is experiencing difficulty adapting to the bike. And, that those races (except where either rider is punted by another rider) should not be eliminated from the stat pool.
I am comparing 2 riders, on equal bikes, on equal tires, riding during the same seasons. That seems pretty fair.
Rossi had 1 podium (3rd) last year. Nicky had 1 podium (3rd) last year.
Rossi finished the season in 7th with 139 points. Nicky finished in 8th with 132 points.
This year they have each beaten the other 3 times and less than 10 points separate them.
I see that as the Big Picture. I dont see that as cherrypicking.
I keep bringing Stoner to it as an example, you're doing a nice job avoiding the point.
I took Nickys crashes away as well, you seemed to miss it.
Cherrypicking the facts as in "Nicky beat Rossi in the final 3 races last year." Presuming you left Sepang out, in 2 of them Rossi was taken out in the 1st lap and in PI he had clearly superior pace as well.
You no doubt cherrypick and generalize when it suits your point, which is fine, only human. The matter of fact is that there is a difference in beating, and finishing higher in the stat sheet when the faster guy was taken out or crashed. Hayden didn't beat Rossi 40 % of the time in 2011 (but 3), just like he didn't beat Stoner 7 times in 2010 (but 1) . There is no point in analyzing or discussing anything if in your opinion the only thing we need to do is watch the finishing results.
Why was the difference so small in points between them? In about 6-7 races where Rossi convincingly beat Hayden (by 10+ seconds) there was a gaggle of Hondas + Lorenzo + Spies etc. bikes ahead of him as well, so his efforts were only good enough for 5th-7th, while Hayden finished 7th-9th simultaneously. The difference doesn't show on points much in that case.