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WSBK 2011 - Donington **SPOILERS**

Postby Richo on Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:09 am

Well we had to wait for a month until the 2nd round but it is finally here. I am loving the fact we have had MotoGP last week, WSBK this week and then MotoGP again next week. Beign deprived for so long of racing it is good to get it back in full measure.

Biaggi and Melandri seem to be going pretty well so far in QP1. Also good to see Vermeulen back on the grid albeit at the back. Clearly he is still suffering.

QP1 Times posted from front page:
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 Pos  No.  Rider  Bike  Time  Diff 
 1  1  M. BIAGGI  Aprilia RSV4 Factory  1'28.794   
 2  33  M. MELANDRI  Yamaha YZF R1  1'28.841  0.047 
 3  7  C. CHECA  Ducati 1098R  1'29.194  0.400 
 4  58  E. LAVERTY  Yamaha YZF R1  1'29.379  0.585 
 5  96  J. SMRZ  Ducati 1098R  1'29.397  0.603 
 6  91  L. HASLAM  BMW S1000 RR  1'29.472  0.678 
 7  11  T. CORSER  BMW S1000 RR  1'29.476  0.682 
 8  111  R. XAUS  Honda CBR1000RR  1'29.613  0.819 
 9  17  J. LASCORZ  Kawasaki ZX-10R  1'29.637  0.843 
 10  2  L. CAMIER  Aprilia RSV4 Factory  1'29.639  0.845 
 11  41  N. HAGA  Aprilia RSV4 Factory  1'29.814  1.020 
 12  121  M. BERGER  Ducati 1098R  1'29.851  1.057 
 13  66  T. SYKES  Kawasaki ZX-10R  1'29.860  1.066 
 14  50  S. GUINTOLI  Ducati 1098R  1'30.008  1.214 
 15  86  A. BADOVINI  BMW S1000 RR  1'30.169  1.375 
 16  4  J. REA  Honda CBR1000RR  1'30.348  1.554 
 17  84  M. FABRIZIO  Suzuki GSX-R1000  1'30.383  1.589 
 18  44  R. ROLFO  Kawasaki ZX-10R  1'30.680  1.886 
 19  8  M. AITCHISON  Kawasaki ZX-10R  1'31.117  2.323 
 20  77  C. VERMEULEN  Kawasaki ZX-10R  1'31.485  2.691 
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Re: WSBK 2011 - Donington **SPOILERS**

Postby Gustav O on Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:23 am

Checa seems very quick as well as he topped both free practices.
I think it will be a battle between Biaggi, Checa, Melandri and Laverty.

Looking forward to the Superpole today. :)

In SS I hope Robbin Harms and Alexander Lundh can perform well, Harms has usually done very well at Donington.
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Re: WSBK 2011 - Donington **SPOILERS**

Postby CLX on Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:53 pm

What is it with Biaggi getting involved with problems with every other italian bike racer from here to Mars?

For championship sake, I don't want another Checa double. But the rest of the pack better do something before its too late. A BMW win would be sweet.
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Re: WSBK 2011 - Donington **SPOILERS**

Postby Jonzie on Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:59 pm

He did seem pretty nervous during the whole weekend so far, but I don't think he did anything wrong intentionally, on the contrary I didn't like the way Melandri came back to him. I think he's pushing the rivalry for media purposes. Italian media love this kind shit.
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Re: WSBK 2011 - Donington **SPOILERS**

Postby RatsMC on Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:34 am

Superpole Results:
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 Pos  No.  Rider  Bike  Time  Diff 
 1  7  C. CHECA  Ducati 1098R  1'28.099   
 2  91  L. HASLAM  BMW S1000 RR  1'28.365  0.266 
 3  66  T. SYKES  Kawasaki ZX-10R  1'28.556  0.457 
 4  96  J. SMRZ  Ducati 1098R  1'28.561  0.462 
 5  41  N. HAGA  Aprilia RSV4 Factory  1'28.673  0.574 
 6  1  M. BIAGGI  Aprilia RSV4 Factory  1'28.702  0.603 
 7  2  L. CAMIER  Aprilia RSV4 Factory  1'28.737  0.638 
 8  4  J. REA  Honda CBR1000RR  1'29.514  1.415 
 SP 2           
 9  33  M. MELANDRI  Yamaha YZF R1  1'28.803  0.614 
 10  11  T. CORSER  BMW S1000 RR  1'28.836  0.647 
 11  84  M. FABRIZIO  Suzuki GSX-R1000  1'29.135  0.946 
 12  17  J. LASCORZ  Kawasaki ZX-10R  1'29.422  1.233 
 SP 1           
 13  58  E. LAVERTY  Yamaha YZF R1  1'29.312  0.764 
 14  50  S. GUINTOLI  Ducati 1098R  1'29.879  1.331 
 15  121  M. BERGER  Ducati 1098R  1'30.002  1.454 
 16  111  R. XAUS  Honda CBR1000RR  1'30.076  1.528 
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Re: WSBK 2011 - Donington **SPOILERS**

Postby Richo on Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:59 am

Thanks for fixing my table at the top Rats, I was just a bit too lazy to do it.

Just finished watching Superpole and it was good to see a BMW and Kawasaki up there. Checa seems to be very smooth and capable of pulling out fast laps at will. I hope he doens't just clear off like at Phillip Island. I especially enjoyed watching Sykes on the Kawasaki. He looked pretty wild and the bike was frequently out of shape. I think they may still have quite a bit of sorting to do on that bike yet. Looking forward to the race now.
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Re: WSBK 2011 - Donington **SPOILERS**

Postby RatsMC on Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:30 pm

Melandri. Lascorz.
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Re: WSBK 2011 - Donington **SPOILERS**

Postby RatsMC on Mon Mar 28, 2011 1:24 am



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Re: WSBK 2011 - Donington **SPOILERS**

Postby RatsMC on Mon Mar 28, 2011 1:34 am

Race 1 Results:
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 Pos  No.  Rider  Country  Bike  Diff 
 1  33  M. MELANDRI  ITA  Yamaha YZF R1   
 2  96  J. SMRZ  CZE  Ducati 1098R  2.455 
 3  7  C. CHECA  ESP  Ducati 1098R  5.839 
 4  91  L. HASLAM  GBR  BMW S1000 RR  6.176 
 5  4  J. REA  GBR  Honda CBR1000RR  9.039 
 6  41  N. HAGA  JPN  Aprilia RSV4 Factory  9.215 
 7  1  M. BIAGGI  ITA  Aprilia RSV4 Factory  9.960 
 8  2  L. CAMIER  GBR  Aprilia RSV4 Factory  14.860 
 9  11  T. CORSER  AUS  BMW S1000 RR  14.877 
 10  17  J. LASCORZ  ESP  Kawasaki ZX-10R  16.182 
 11  50  S. GUINTOLI  FRA  Ducati 1098R  25.820 
 12  111  R. XAUS  ESP  Honda CBR1000RR  28.378 
 13  86  A. BADOVINI  ITA  BMW S1000 RR  31.869 
 14  44  R. ROLFO  ITA  Kawasaki ZX-10R  40.015 
 15  8  M. AITCHISON  AUS  Kawasaki ZX-10R  1'00.128 
 RET  66  T. SYKES  GBR  Kawasaki ZX-10R  6 Laps 
 RET  84  M. FABRIZIO  ITA  Suzuki GSX-R1000  9 Laps 
 RET  121  M. BERGER  FRA  Ducati 1098R  18 Laps 
 RET  58  E. LAVERTY  IRL  Yamaha YZF R1  20 Laps 


Race 2:
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 Pos  No.  Rider  Country  Bike  Diff 
 1  7  C. CHECA  ESP  Ducati 1098R   
 2  33  M. MELANDRI  ITA  Yamaha YZF R1  3.397 
 3  2  L. CAMIER  GBR  Aprilia RSV4 Factory  5.902 
 4  91  L. HASLAM  GBR  BMW S1000 RR  13.842 
 5  17  J. LASCORZ  ESP  Kawasaki ZX-10R  14.253 
 6  4  J. REA  GBR  Honda CBR1000RR  19.413 
 7  84  M. FABRIZIO  ITA  Suzuki GSX-R1000  20.278 
 8  96  J. SMRZ  CZE  Ducati 1098R  21.160 
 9  86  A. BADOVINI  ITA  BMW S1000 RR  24.298 
 10  111  R. XAUS  ESP  Honda CBR1000RR  24.907 
 11  50  S. GUINTOLI  FRA  Ducati 1098R  32.440 
 12  66  T. SYKES  GBR  Kawasaki ZX-10R  32.679 
 13  11  T. CORSER  AUS  BMW S1000 RR  34.070 
 14  58  E. LAVERTY  IRL  Yamaha YZF R1  36.418 
 15  44  R. ROLFO  ITA  Kawasaki ZX-10R  44.037 
 16  8  M. AITCHISON  AUS  Kawasaki ZX-10R  52.412 
 17  41  N. HAGA  JPN  Aprilia RSV4 Factory  56.634 
 RET  121  M. BERGER  FRA  Ducati 1098R  22 Laps 
 EX  1  M. BIAGGI  ITA  Aprilia RSV4 Factory   


Season Standings:
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 Pos  Rider    Points  Diff 
 1  Carlos CHECA  ESP  91   
 2  Marco MELANDRI  ITA  72  -19 
 3  Leon HASLAM  GBR  53  -38 
 4  Max BIAGGI  ITA  49  -42 
 5  Jakub SMRZ  CZE  42  -49 
 6  Jonathan REA  GBR  38  -53 
 7  Leon CAMIER  GBR  37  -54 
 8  Michel FABRIZIO  ITA  27  -64 
 9  Noriyuki HAGA  JPN  26  -65 
 10  Tom SYKES  GBR  19  -72 
 11  Joan LASCORZ  ESP  17  -74 
 12  Eugene LAVERTY  IRL  16  -75 
 13  Troy CORSER  AUS  16  -75 
 14  Ruben XAUS  ESP  16  -75 
 15  Ayrton BADOVINI  ITA  12  -79 
 16  Roberto ROLFO  ITA  12  -79 
 17  Sylvain GUINTOLI  FRA  10  -81 
 18  Joshua WATERS  AUS  3  -88 
 19  James TOSELAND  GBR  2  -89 
 20  Mark AITCHISON  AUS  1  -90 
 21  Bryan STARING  AUS  1  -90 
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Re: WSBK 2011 - Donington **SPOILERS**

Postby CLX on Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:59 am

Who else considers Melandri a serious contender?
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Re: WSBK 2011 - Donington **SPOILERS**

Postby RatsMC on Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:06 am

Given how far he came from the back to take the win, I think anyone would have to consider him a contender. Honestly, watching him today was like watching an early Rossi (by that, I do not mean that Melandri is like Rossi, just that today he looked that in control and that joyful about riding)

I've got to say that Melandri and Lascorz have actually gotten me more excited about WSBK than I have been since 2002.
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Re: WSBK 2011 - Donington **SPOILERS**

Postby Rusty Bucket USA on Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:41 am

And this, ladies and germs, is the biggest risk with a single-sided swingarm: :lol:
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Re: WSBK 2011 - Donington **SPOILERS**

Postby xyx on Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:25 am

The spokes were actually sheared off at the hub:
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Probably an old and perhaps crash damaged wheel re-used one time too many.
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Re: WSBK 2011 - Donington **SPOILERS**

Postby Richo on Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:07 am

Have just finished watching the WSBK and WSS races. some entertainement there for sure. Firstly well done to Melandri and Checa, both excellent rides.

Secondly, what is going on with Biaggi? He was not having a good weekend was he? I can clearly see now why he never won a 500cc or MotoGP championship.

Also that wheel flying off the ducati was something else wasn't it? I dont think I have ever seen that before. Cant blame the rider for that one.

CLX, I agree and think Melandri is definately a serious contender this year. The R1 is fast and so is he, he seems to have got his mojo back which is great. He will have to contend with Checa though, so time will tell.
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Re: WSBK 2011 - Donington **SPOILERS**

Postby Jonzie on Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:39 am

Melandri definitely showed everyone he's going to be a serious contender this year. Consider also that he still needs to get used to the superpole format and he's still not 100%fit. Had he started from the first row it could have been a double win.

Checa seems superstrong too. If I think about Fabrizio and Tardozzi complaining every other day last year about lack of power and the supposed handicap of the two cylinders... it makes me angry. Here is a guy who is racing with a bike at the end of its development, on a semi satellite team and still winning races.

Biaggi... well, these are the times when Biaggi's Fan's patience is put to the test. What the hell was wrong with him? Very nervous throughout the weekend, lots of mistakes and points thrown away. His pace wasn't that bad, had he not drove with his penis he could have brought home a couple of 4th - 5th places. Last year he won the championship like this, and after Miller only Haslam could be a contender. This year there seem to be at least two serious contenders and several other guys who seem strong enough to be in the mix (Haslam, the odd Kavasaki, Rea etc). If he doesn't get his shit together he can say good bye to this championship.

Strong pereformances of both Haslam and Camier, well done!
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Re: WSBK 2011 - Donington **SPOILERS**

Postby Faster1 on Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:27 pm

Jonzie wrote:He did seem pretty nervous during the whole weekend so far, but I don't think he did anything wrong intentionally, on the contrary I didn't like the way Melandri came back to him. I think he's pushing the rivalry for media purposes. Italian media love this kind shit.


,,hmmmm,,, not sure where your going with that or I missed something, I get a half-assed SPEED TV 3/4 broadcast.,, IMO, the only thing wrong with Max (and I thought he grew up a little) was he assuming that everyone was going to make way for the emperor wearing #1. Melandri did all he could on a bike that is (supposed to be) slower that Biagi's. It just looked like MB's crew (and just as much Max's fault) totally eff'ed up the setting,, especially it light of his teammate, Leon, going so well in the second race. I was real disappointed at the video (thanks RATS)and if I were Marco,, I would have re-arranged Max's face if he were to give me a love slap like that... Any Italians out there who can translate the exchange??? :lol:

I agree though, MM is a contender.
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Re: WSBK 2011 - Donington **SPOILERS**

Postby RatsMC on Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:06 pm

Biaggi was a mess this weekend. He was outbraking himself nearly every lap, running wide and losing places, over and over. That along with getting himself disqualified, I'm not sure how it could be argued that he didn't have a bad weekend.
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Re: WSBK 2011 - Donington **SPOILERS**

Postby Jonzie on Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:58 pm

,,hmmmm,,, not sure where your going with that or I missed something, I get a half-assed SPEED TV 3/4 broadcast.,, IMO, the only thing wrong with Max (and I thought he grew up a little) was he assuming that everyone was going to make way for the emperor wearing #1. Melandri did all he could on a bike that is (supposed to be) slower that Biagi's. It just looked like MB's crew (and just as much Max's fault) totally eff'ed up the setting,, especially it light of his teammate, Leon, going so well in the second race. I was real disappointed at the video (thanks RATS)and if I were Marco,, I would have re-arranged Max's face if he were to give me a love slap like that... Any Italians out there who can translate the exchange??? :lol:

I agree though, MM is a contender.


I agree with you Faster, I just didn't explain myself appropriately. What I meant was that Max's manoeuvres was surely to condemn but still "possibly" non intentional, while the take of melandri on the next turn was surely intentional, in fact they were both sanctioned for that (Biaggi also got 3K fine for the slapping that happened later). Anyway he made a fool of himself during both race 1 and 2.
Let's hope he gets his s*** together for the sake of racing.
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Re: WSBK 2011 - Donington **SPOILERS**

Postby motomania on Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:11 am

So, do I think Biaggi cut-off/slowed down Melandri intentionally on that last lap of that SuperPole session? Absolutely. Biaggi didn't do anything different there than he's done before in MotoGP. No, I can't remember specific tracks and times off the top of my head. But I do recall him playing the slow in the line game with other racers while they're on a hot qualifying lap on the last lap. I remember him being fined for those type of actions and on more than one occasion. I'll give Melandri credit for not doing anything. I'm of the mindset with Faster1, pull that crap with me with your little insulting slaps and you'd find yourself picking yourself up off the floor. I found it interesting that they also fined MM. Why because he rode up along Biaggi to ask let him know he was number 1 and a great guy for keeping MM from moving to the next SuperPole session? Biaggi hasn't changed, he's still the arrogant ass he's always been. He better be careful as I believe there's a few others in the WSBK paddock that won't respond as sweetly as MM did and the emporer could be obtaining dental services the next time he pulls something in the paddock like that.

My first reaction to the tire coming off was that some mechanic should lose their job over that happening for not safety wiring/cotter pinning that axle nut. After seeing/learning later that the wheel actually snapped from the center hub, he got his job back. ;) A bizarre incident no doubt.
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Re: WSBK 2011 - Donington **SPOILERS**

Postby RatsMC on Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:37 am

So, Melandri is the first rider to win a race in 125, 250, MotoGP and WSBK. Quite an accomplishment. But, as Dennis Noyes points out, Rossi, if he were to win in the 1000cc era and then go to WSBK and win, would hold wins in 125, 250, 500cc, 990cc, 800cc and 1000cc.

I've not cared much about Rossi's talk about going to WSBK but I think Melandri might have just set a line in the sand that Rossi will not be able to resist.
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Re: WSBK 2011 - Donington **SPOILERS**

Postby Pete47 on Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:24 am

After all the hype leading up to MotoGP and F1 this year I have to say I'm loving the WSB so far, looks like we could be in for a great year. Everyone would like to see Checa do well, nice bit of needle between Melandri and Biaggi to spice things up, Camier looks good on the Aprilia and will be a force this year especially when he's fit again, Haslam looks like a challenger once the BMW gets sorted, it's great to see the green bikes up there again with Lascorz and Sykes. Throw in Rea, Laverty, Haga, Smrz etc and there will be some interesting races this year with lots of different winning bikes and riders, what more could you ask for? MotoGP might well be the pinnacle but I think everyone would admit the races can be (whisper it) a bit dull. As a fan this is what we want to see.

On a different note, and I don't wish to be unkind but..... what has happened to Checa's face? Is there something wrong or is that the worst facelift in history? He can hardly close his mouth, he looks like Cher.....
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Re: WSBK 2011 - Donington **SPOILERS**

Postby Tormo4ever on Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:50 pm

Who wouldn t like to see Checa take it?


MM did the right thing. The amazing thing is Biaggi conducts himself like he s Mike Tyson. They guy s basically a midget!

Mind you, MM isn t exactly nba center material - oh well, not sure the outcome of this encounter would ve been the same had the cameras not been there.
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Re: WSBK 2011 - Donington **SPOILERS**

Postby RatsMC on Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:44 am

Ooh..look carefully:

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Re: WSBK 2011 - Donington **SPOILERS**

Postby Richo on Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:19 am

That is an incredible photo, perfect timing. I wonder what the rider must be thinking about now... mmm something doesn't feel quite right.
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Re: WSBK 2011 - Donington **SPOILERS**

Postby carty on Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:53 pm

I was pretty sure when watching it that the rider whose wheel fubar'd itself was hit from behind around the apex of the corner, just before the wheel split- anyone else see the same?
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