Aprilia RSA250 vs RSW250LE

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Re: Aprilia RSA250 vs RSW250LE

Postby TwoStroke Institute on Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:34 pm

Last year Simoncelli's Swing arm was aluminium with a carbon cover, best of both worlds I suppose. I have an article here if you want a scan Gustav? Also a friend picked up his BRAND NEW 09 TZ250. :D
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Re: Aprilia RSA250 vs RSW250LE

Postby Gustav O on Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:26 pm

Scans are always nice!
After fiidling with my fourteen year old bike I long for a brand new one... :x
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Re: Aprilia RSA250 vs RSW250LE

Postby Kropotkin on Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:29 pm

Gustav O wrote:Scans are always nice!
After fiidling with my fourteen year old bike I long for a brand new one... :x


What, like one of these, you mean:
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Re: Aprilia RSA250 vs RSW250LE

Postby micnic on Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:41 pm

That bike is a normal RS250. It has nothing to do with a RSW/RSA. RS250 is a road bike with a Suzuki reed engine. RSW/RSA is a grandprix bike wih a rotary valve engine developed in-house by the racing team.

Last year Simoncelli's Swing arm was aluminium with a carbon cover, best of both worlds I suppose
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http://www.sportrider.com/features/146_ ... index.html

To me it looks like a carbon swingarm with aluminium inserts at the end. Have a close look at the high res. pictures.
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Re: Aprilia RSA250 vs RSW250LE

Postby Gustav O on Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:05 pm

Kropotkin wrote:What, like one of these, you mean:

:mrgreen:

As it is only twelve years old it feels almost new.
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Re: Aprilia RSA250 vs RSW250LE

Postby Gustav O on Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:06 pm

micnic wrote:That bike is a normal RS250. It has nothing to do with a RSW/RSA. RS250 is a road bike with a Suzuki reed engine. RSW/RSA is a grandprix bike wih a rotary valve engine developed in-house by the racing team.

We know that, yes we are far OT. It is only an internal joke as the bike in the picture is my bike and I bought it yesterday, hence the "new" reference. :D
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Re: Aprilia RSA250 vs RSW250LE

Postby micnic on Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:50 pm

Gustav O wrote:
micnic wrote:I'll get a 2010 RSA cylinder ( APF model ) in my hands on Monday. Then I'll have a closer look :D

Pics or it didn´t happen!
We want pictures!


Here's a couple of pictures :D
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Re: Aprilia RSA250 vs RSW250LE

Postby micnic on Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:53 pm

TwoStroke Institute wrote:I have port maps of Maxter. Pavesi and the Aprilia and the difference is very minor.


The APF cylinder ports is very different compared to year 2003 Aprilia cylinder and even more compared to Maxter.
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Re: Aprilia RSA250 vs RSW250LE

Postby Gustav O on Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:54 pm

So what are you going to do with it?
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Re: Aprilia RSA250 vs RSW250LE

Postby micnic on Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:12 pm

Probably just study it and sell it again if some one is interested.
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Re: Aprilia RSA250 vs RSW250LE

Postby hanns-g on Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:21 pm

I would be interested seeing inside the cylinder or even buying it PM me if you want to sell it
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Re: Aprilia RSA250 vs RSW250LE

Postby gorow on Thu Sep 30, 2010 12:01 am

Nah weve got to see inside that cylinder - please......
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Re: Aprilia RSA250 vs RSW250LE

Postby micnic on Thu Sep 30, 2010 2:19 pm

gorow wrote:Nah weve got to see inside that cylinder - please......


Nothing special to see, just some holes :D
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Re: Aprilia RSA250 vs RSW250LE

Postby Gustav O on Thu Sep 30, 2010 2:22 pm

micnic wrote:
Nothing special to see, just some holes :D

If they are nothing special you can just show them to us. ;)
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Re: Aprilia RSA250 vs RSW250LE

Postby TwoStroke Institute on Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:27 am

gorow wrote:Nah weve got to see inside that cylinder - please......


Ask you shall receive, ;)
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Re: Aprilia RSA250 vs RSW250LE

Postby micnic on Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:16 pm

That looks like a sand core from the mould used for producing APE and APF cylinders.
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Re: Aprilia RSA250 vs RSW250LE

Postby hanns-g on Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:33 pm

Looks like a quick removal to me have you got into trouble TSI
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Re: Aprilia RSA250 vs RSW250LE

Postby micnic on Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:10 pm

hanns-g wrote:Looks like a quick removal to me have you got into trouble TSI


Maybe someone have visited Aprilia Racing and been taking pictures without asking for permission first.

Anyone with a cylinder at their dispossal can make a silicone rubber casting of the ports and take a picture, but TSI's picture was the real sandcore from the mould and nobody except Aprilia ( or perhaps a subcontractor ) has that.
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Re: Aprilia RSA250 vs RSW250LE

Postby TwoStroke Institute on Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:22 am

:o

No just it's base for a lamp shade now.The work well in these ;)

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Re: Aprilia RSA250 vs RSW250LE

Postby Gustav O on Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:36 pm

That is agreat sounding , and looking, bike. 8-)
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Re: Aprilia RSA250 vs RSW250LE

Postby micnic on Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:03 pm

Here's the new superkart engine.

Hasn't been in the dyno yet, only track tested.
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Re: Aprilia RSA250 vs RSW250LE

Postby Gustav O on Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:25 pm

Cool. We want video clip with sound.
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Re: Aprilia RSA250 vs RSW250LE

Postby micnic on Sat Oct 30, 2010 9:53 am

So far no videos of the new engine, but here's one with the old and less powerfull 251 motor.

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Re: Aprilia RSA250 vs RSW250LE

Postby JanBros on Sat Oct 30, 2010 7:30 pm

micnic wrote:So far no videos of the new engine, but here's one with the old and less powerfull 251 motor.



didn't know those karts raced at Zolder. And they are fast, about 1'35", I only manage 1'55" with my KR1S :?
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Re: Aprilia RSA250 vs RSW250LE

Postby micnic on Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:05 am

Yes it's Zolder.

The driver is Carlo Chermaz from Australia who finished second but set the fastest laptime 1'33''322'''
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