Chasing the Holy Grail - Title Battle

[Albert]

J Unfortunately the site is getting over powered by the old boys club and as someone else said, it's become a difficult place to have a chat and lately I hardly post at all

That's a shame Cam!

As one of the self admitted "old boys" maybe it would be better if people like myself took a backseat and let the "younger end" get on with things unhindered!

[TheSecondStain]

Apologies if already posted [I have looked - hopefully hard enough]

And back to on-track matters, John Hopkins has got a wild-card entry for Brno. Don't know what he'll ride [another Suzuki..?], but good news..!

[TheSecondStain]

BTW, do we have an early candidate for DOTM in Alex Baldolini..? For coming off in a Moto2 practice session [OK, everyone and his cat does that], but then remounting with a leaky engine, putting oil across the track, effectively cancelling FP2 for everyone. I bet everyone, including notably Elena Rosell, was cheesed off with that.

[Squidpuppet]

For those finding the topic boring, it's easy. Stop reading it, and if you didn't want it discussed here then you should have left one of the threads open for the guys so they could discuss it till they ran out of breath. Who cares if they are flogging a dead horse... it's just their passion for scrutinzing the most minute detail of their favourite sport. .

I agree. As long as there is nothing rude or inflamatory being done, boring is the opinion of the reader. Isnt that what the threads are for, talking about a subject until we are done?

[Squidpuppet]

Albert, Squidpuppet and Tourn46 I'm not so sure anyone (except Lucy ) is looking at this from the perspective you guys are suggesting. From what I can see the argument is one about the precedent set and its possible causing of the collapse of the testing restriction agreement. I can't help but think you guys are being a little sensitive and perceiving attacks on Rossi that aren't there...

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I tried to separate, and respond accordingly, to the ones that I believed were, from those that I believed were not. Perhaps I misread and assumed that some were implying that. Sorry if I ruffled feathers.

[Gustav O]

A shame if people stop writing but the vibe here recently has been pretty poor so I have read random parts and contributed even less than before. Hopefully we will get back on track so here we go - back on topic.

As far as I am concerned this title is Stoners to lose from now on. He is on form, bike is perfect and the others have to catch up. Barring injury Stoner will be WC at the end of the year.

[Dayle88]

One thing is for sure, Pedrosa being out has had a huge impact on the championship entertainment wise. I'm not saying he would of beaten Stoner in the last three races but you just know he would of pushed him alot harder and made it more exciting to watch. (Two years ago I wouldnt of even dreamed of writing something like that! )

[Rusty Bucket USA]

Thank you, Dayle, for remembering the title of this thread.

It seems to me that about a page or more of this thread has been lost to something far too temporal to be included in a discussion about a year-long championship.

Seriously, if we need a "Complaints and Confusion" thread, that's fine. But most of the problems can be solved by checking the title of the thread before entering a briefly-considered post.

Perhaps because there's little to say on this championship topic unless and until we see Rossi and Lorenzo challenging Stoner, but that doesn't mean it's ripe for the hijacking. There are race threads for short-term developments, and the off-track ones for the really argumentative stuff. This one should pretty much be about the bigger picture of trends in rider performance and bike development as related to the overall season.

Though I am the Sheriff in this "town", and I serve at the pleasure of the Mayor, this is not a nanny-state; quite the opposite. In a manner similar to the American founding fathers, we expect everyone to be self-governed and respectful of others, with law enforcement only rarely needing to get involved for truly serious matters.

[motodh]

A MotoGP Stats query shows the various Constructors’ Championships grouped.



Anyone here know the circumstances for “Gilera – Not Recognized”? So there was no recognized winner that year (1954)?

That's right. It's explained here: http://www.ultimatemotorcycling.com/motogp-1954-racing-politics

[ipso]

motodh, you’re a gentleman and a scholar for posting that information!

Supremely detailed; something that caught my eye was “Sporting Code Arts”, which has a certain renaissance-man ring to it; worthy of a Google search. Qualifying those three words into a single string (putting quotes around them) results in only three results, including the original article, which includes details of the photos here and a republishing in an interesting FIM magazine I had no idea existed here.

Life is just full of mystery and wonderment. Thank you again for replying.

[motodh]

You're welcome. I performed that same search at http://www.motogp.com myself this morning, saw the "not recognized" and asked myself the same question you asked. So I did some Googling and found both the answer, and your question, so I thought I'd post the answer here for the benefit of anyone else who might be wondering.

[RatsMC]

It is exactly that sort of curiosity and tenacity that attracted me here and drives my own work. Welcome. It's always nice to have more people who aren't happy with limits of the information the media provide.