Albert wrote:Oscar, TSI, Wayne G (and all others old enough to remember!)
Oscar wrote:Pre-race interview by Steve Parrish with J.B., Burgess basically said straight up that the front box can't be made to work and Ducati must go twin-spar. Burgess suggested very strongly that Ducati was seriously considering this.
eddahenry wrote:Where VR and NH on 2 different bikes if so they seemed to have gone nowhere right next to each other and 30 secounds off the pace
RatsMC wrote:This isn't helpful, but Rossi's bike had the front raised so high it looked like a first gen EX250. It didn't look like a bike that had actually been designed but rather cobbled together.
Richo wrote:tom wrote:So that's 3 riders on vastly different irritations of the same machine...
Was that meant to be iterations? On second thoughts, I think you have it correct
Rusty Bucket USA wrote:Hayden, on the bike most like last year's, was (just under) 14 seconds slower this year than last. His time in this year's race would have put him again in 7th place last year, instead of the 5th he got (if someone else had run his 5th place pace, instead). Conversely, if he'd had last year's pace this year, he'd have been in front of Spies, up one position from last year.
Oscar wrote:Rusty Bucket USA wrote:Hayden, on the bike most like last year's, was (just under) 14 seconds slower this year than last. His time in this year's race would have put him again in 7th place last year, instead of the 5th he got (if someone else had run his 5th place pace, instead). Conversely, if he'd had last year's pace this year, he'd have been in front of Spies, up one position from last year.
The race was about 12 secs. quicker than 2008; Rossi backed off after Stoner dropped it so we can probably say race time was around 8 secs quicker? In other words, reasonably comparable for track conditions given the improvements of this year's bikes.
Except for Ducati. Unless I've done the maths wrong, the race time for the first Ducati home in '08 was almost 5 secs. FASTER than for the first Ducati home in '11. Drop, restart and all.
There is no way that this can be painted as progress.
Oscar wrote:Certainly did. Frankly, it looked about as desperate a choice of alternatives as one of those rope bridges across the canyon in the Indana Jones movies - you know, the ones that are the choice between it or the 200-foot high firebreathing monster? What you get when confronted by a ridicule wrapped in an enema (yes, I know I've used a similar line before..)
JanBros wrote:I hope they won't go for an aluminium twin-spar. they can't catch-up with the japanese on that. What they do have by now, is experience with carbon-fibre chassis', so I'd say they need to build some sort off carbon-fibre twin spar . that way they can still say they are different to the others
TwoStroke Institute wrote:They won't be able to make any engines for twin spar frames as they only have 2 unsed engines between Hayden and Rossi. So both of them will at some stage be starting from pit lane
I agree with you about Ducati's experience with Carbon, Jan, but their experience hasn't given them any big advantage over anyone! If anything it's held them back!
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