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Re: 2011 R15 Motegi Race Topic ** Spoilers**

Postby Cam D on Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:41 am

Casey has the speed, but I'm hoping Jorge can make a race of it as his 46's seem pretty consistent. Ben seems to have bounced back from the food poising, hopefully he gets a good start and can give the other Honda riders something to think about..... might give Jorge some space.
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Re: 2011 R15 Motegi Race Topic ** Spoilers**

Postby DJH on Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:27 pm

Stoner's times don't say all that much (he didn't do too many laps) - apart from "I'm very fast again".

I can't see it being much of a race at the front.. but there is potential for an early scrap from 2-5.

Fingers crossed anyway!
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Re: 2011 R15 Motegi Race Topic ** Spoilers**

Postby Rusty Bucket USA on Sat Oct 01, 2011 10:48 pm

Not that it's terribly interesting, but the MotoGP QP times are about 7 seconds slower than the Indy Car times were 2 weeks ago (their first-ever visit on the road course).
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Re: 2011 R15 Motegi Race Topic ** Spoilers**

Postby rick on Sun Oct 02, 2011 2:31 am

Rusty Bucket USA wrote:Not that it's terribly interesting, but the MotoGP QP times are about 7 seconds slower than the Indy Car times were 2 weeks ago (their first-ever visit on the road course).
:o


If they are using the exact same layout I'm not surprised, the Superbike boys used to be shocked at how quick a simple Formula Ford was here on our short tracks like Oran Park south when we shared practice and race days.
Braking zones are a lot shorter, corner speeds much higher with four wheels and monster contact patches, add in aero download and the differences are even greater.

I know what I'd rather watch though :D
the older I get, the faster I was....
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Re: 2011 R15 Motegi Race Topic ** Spoilers**

Postby Oscar on Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:15 am

rick wrote: the Superbike boys used to be shocked at how quick a simple Formula Ford was here on our short tracks like Oran Park south when we shared practice and race days.


And four foot of concrete wall on the outside of Castrol was intimidating enough in a car...plus that nice little hole in the verge on the inside of Skyline.. didn't slow the Cros much, though.
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Re: 2011 R15 Motegi Race Topic ** Spoilers**

Postby lebowski on Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:47 am

ZARCO!!!! Good on him. He kept the inner lunatic at bay and rode a great race. Well done.
Vinales - fantastic ride from 36th to 4th. Impressive.

I'm going to miss the 125's.
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Re: 2011 R15 Motegi Race Topic ** Spoilers**

Postby motomania on Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:03 am

Spies just can't catch a damn break. :(
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Re: 2011 R15 Motegi Race Topic ** Spoilers**

Postby Cam D on Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:45 am

motomania wrote:Spies just can't catch a damn break. :(

Great come back ride though!
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Re: 2011 R15 Motegi Race Topic ** Spoilers**

Postby eddahenry on Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:55 am

great save from casey to
having no brakes at 290klp if it was me i would have just dropped dead from a heart attack
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Re: 2011 R15 Motegi Race Topic ** Spoilers**

Postby Oscar on Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:31 am

Not a great motoGp race, though some entertainment in the first few laps, Dovi vs Singlecelli the best bit - and I'll admit that Single did a good job of keeping it together, possibly his best set of laps all year. Courteous of Rossi to at least TRY to even up the effect he has had on the WC by having a good go at taking out Lorenzo this time. Cudlin yet another victim of Duc lover pate disease... Pedrosa and Lorenzo rode well but nothing spectacular, Stoner - phew - that was, all things considered, a very cardio-challenging moment and I thought a good ride back to grab 3rd.
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Re: 2011 R15 Motegi Race Topic ** Spoilers**

Postby Tourn46 on Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:46 am

Gutted for Rossi, with the jump starts I think he could have had a "good" result, but definitely a simple racing incident, too many riders going for one bit of track.

Stoner, I lol'd. Especially the interview "it wasn't really a mistake"... no it never is, man up and get on with it ffs.

I'm glad Simo beat Dovi too, HRC made the right choice.

Other than that, nothing of real interest.
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2011 R15 Motegi Race Topic ** Spoilers**

Postby Gustav O on Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:51 am

Oscar wrote:Courteous of Rossi to at least TRY to even up the effect he has had on the WC by having a good go at taking out Lorenzo this time.

This is having me very confused. Trying to be funny or honest?

Anyway. Dramatic race in a strange way. What it really showed is how huge the gap is between the top six and the rest as even though four of them either ran off the track or had ride throughs they ended in the top six, albeit helped by a lot of crashes. A shame Bautista couldnt hold it together and I really thoguht Lorenzo would push past Pedrosa but he did not have the pace.
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Re: 2011 R15 Motegi Race Topic ** Spoilers**

Postby eddahenry on Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:28 am

Tourn46 wrote:
Stoner, I lol'd. Especially the interview "it wasn't really a mistake"... no it never is, man up and get on with it ffs.


Im guessing you have never raced a bike in your life
or never been fast enough to deal with a wicked tank slapper and what happens to your brakes because if it
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Re: 2011 R15 Motegi Race Topic ** Spoilers**

Postby DJH on Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:37 am

eddahenry wrote:
Tourn46 wrote:
Stoner, I lol'd. Especially the interview "it wasn't really a mistake"... no it never is, man up and get on with it ffs.


Im guessing you have never raced a bike in your life
or never been fast enough to deal with a wicked tank slapper and what happens to your brakes because if it


It's a bit rich coming from a one eyed Rossi fan too! If anyone in the paddock makes continual bullshit excuses, whines about his machinery and generally refuses to accept that he is merely mortal.. it is Valentino Rossi.

Heaven forbid you ever experience a tank slapper at that speed Tourn. Maybe they can feed you some humble pie in hospital?

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Re: 2011 R15 Motegi Race Topic ** Spoilers**

Postby Tourn46 on Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:43 am

DJH wrote:
eddahenry wrote:
Tourn46 wrote:
Stoner, I lol'd. Especially the interview "it wasn't really a mistake"... no it never is, man up and get on with it ffs.


Im guessing you have never raced a bike in your life
or never been fast enough to deal with a wicked tank slapper and what happens to your brakes because if it


It's a bit rich coming from a one eyed Rossi fan too! If anyone in the paddock makes continual bullshit excuses, whines about his machinery and generally refuses to accept that he is merely mortal.. it is Valentino Rossi.

Heaven forbid you ever experience a tank slapper at that speed Tourn. Maybe they can feed you some humble pie in hospital?

:P

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Let us think who the true fisherman was here ;)
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Re: 2011 R15 Motegi Race Topic ** Spoilers**

Postby DJH on Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:13 am

I'll bite everytime.
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Re: 2011 R15 Motegi Race Topic ** Spoilers**

Postby Cam D on Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:08 pm

You wouldn't bite if there wasn't a fisherman... don't see the need for it.
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Re: 2011 R15 Motegi Race Topic ** Spoilers**

Postby Oscar on Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:24 pm

Chill, guys. It's been an annus horribilis for Rossi fanatics, and Stoner's success has been hammering the spike pretty deep. Tourn is a self-confessed Stoner-hater from way back (I'm sure he won't mind me bringing that one up, since he proclaimed it himself) so let it pass through to the keeper. It's racing, stuff happens, the same three aliens as (nearly) always ended up on the podium, they all seemed to enjoy the race and were happy little vegemites amongst themselves, there's life in the championship yet, enjoy.
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Re: 2011 R15 Motegi Race Topic ** Spoilers**

Postby Cam D on Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:36 pm

Oscar wrote:Chill, guys. It's been an annus horribilis for Rossi fanatics, and Stoner's success has been hammering the spike pretty deep. Tourn is a self-confessed Stoner-hater from way back (I'm sure he won't mind me bringing that one up, since he proclaimed it himself) so let it pass through to the keeper. It's racing, stuff happens, the same three aliens as (nearly) always ended up on the podium, they all seemed to enjoy the race and were happy little vegemites amongst themselves, there's life in the championship yet, enjoy.


Sorry but I don't think we need to chill, your efforts should be spent on telling him to save it for another site. I'm surprised you think this sort of behavior is acceptable.
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Re: 2011 R15 Motegi Race Topic ** Spoilers**

Postby L34 on Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:41 pm

Any one else think that the (start) red lights took a long while to come on,to cause those 3 riders to baulk?

Was keen to see how Val and the Ducati were going to go considering his good pace in the warm up. Just one of those accidents,
3 bikes and room only for 1, lucky all 3 didnt go down. Thankfully VR wasnt hurt. The same cant be said about HB, another GP rider to suffer
a broken collarbone. Wish him a speedy recovery.

Casey was very lucky, great save. Can you imagine if something like that happened at the end of the straight at PI :shock:

DP and JL great rides.
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Re: 2011 R15 Motegi Race Topic ** Spoilers**

Postby Rossifumi on Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:58 pm

DJH wrote:If anyone in the paddock makes continual bullshit excuses, whines about his machinery and generally refuses to accept that he is merely mortal.. it is Valentino Rossi.



didn't Valentino ride at Misano with the 'donkey helmet' a while back?
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Re: 2011 R15 Motegi Race Topic ** Spoilers**

Postby Oscar on Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:33 pm

Cam D wrote:Sorry but I don't think we need to chill, your efforts should be spent on telling him to save it for another site. I'm surprised you think this sort of behavior is acceptable.


UM, I'm NOT endorsing that sort of thing (and I'm pretty sure Albert would join me in that), I'm merely suggesting it is the result of extreme frustration and a pre-determined target. Stoner's eventual response was enough for me..

Ha - Rossi was certainly being generous with his favours - not only Team Yamaha but his own team-mate were blessed: (from the motoGp site) - Hayden post-race comments:

Then I got touched by Vale on the exit of Turn 1 and went off the track and lost a lot of time.


Some days, your enthusiasm can just cause grief all around you. Somebody said something about this earlier in the season, but for the life of me, I can't recall the occasion. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: 2011 R15 Motegi Race Topic ** Spoilers**

Postby DJH on Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:53 pm

Oscar wrote:Some days, your enthusiasm can just cause grief all around you. Somebody said something about this earlier in the season, but for the life of me, I can't recall the occasion. :lol: :lol: :lol:


It wasn't just Jerez either. First corner at Qatar was enough for me.
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Re: 2011 R15 Motegi Race Topic ** Spoilers**

Postby Cam D on Sun Oct 02, 2011 2:21 pm

Pretty positive stuff from Valentino. This weekend it seemed like they had found something. I'm looking forward to PI. I reckon there might be a few surprises.
“It's really a shame to be out of the race after two corners, especially after the progress that we made this weekend, and with the knowledge that we'd worked on the bike well," he said. "I was fourth in the morning warm-up, and it would have been possible to have a pace in the high 1min 46 range.

"I also think our choice of tyres for the race - hard on the back and soft on the front - was correct. When you also consider the troubles that Stoner, Simoncelli and Dovizioso had, we could have fought for the podium, which would have been really nice for us. We were a little unlucky.

"Anyway, we did a good job this weekend, and we were more competitive than usual. It's a challenging time for us, but we hope we're on the right path.”
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Re: 2011 R15 Motegi Race Topic ** Spoilers**

Postby L34 on Sun Oct 02, 2011 2:30 pm

Cam D wrote:Pretty positive stuff from Valentino. This weekend it seemed like they had found something. I'm looking forward to PI. I reckon there might be a few surprises.


I was thinking the same thing, I reckon the 2 factory Ducks will spring a surprise.
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